Babylon Podcast #192: In the Beginning (Movie)

Welcome to Show #192!

We welcome special guests Jim, Chuck and Sonny from the band Sci-Fried, joining us to talk about how B5 influenced them, inspired some of their music, and to chime in on the Geeking.

We also say farewell to Andrew Koenig, son of Walter Koenig, and our hearts and thoughts are with Walter and his family.

Deep Geeking: Tim, Summer, Bret, Jeffrey, and Chuck discuss “In the Beginning”, the first of the Babylon 5 TV movies, and how it functions as a vehicle to introduce the series to a brand new audience coming in via TNT, and to the existing fans who may not have been able to see all of the previous four seasons due to inconsistencies in syndicated broadcast times.

Summer also tosses out the theory that some of the retconned information might have been made up by Londo to fill in the blanks in the story he was telling, and idea that hit upon her while we were chatting.

How do you feel about some of the retcons that were introduced in this movie? Do they bother you, or are they understandable given the need to incorporate the existing cast members in slightly different situations? Do the characters not remembering or acknowledging meeting each other concern you more or less than altering the details of Sheridan’s destruction of The Black Star?

Feedback Wanted: Don’t forget to let us know if you want to submit your formal theories about “Day of the Dead”, pro or con, for a final theoretical debate on what really happened in that episode.

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s also still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

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  1. Thank you for explaining when in the show’s production timeline this movie came out, and the purpose for it. As I’ve said previously, I only discovered the show about a year and a half ago. (Recently completed a re-watch in order to keep up with your Deep Geeking.) I got different advice from friends as to when it was best to watch this movie. I think I did end up watching it after S4. At that point, I had gone through the series way too fast and it left me confused as to where events all fit in. Now that you explained in full the business with ‘Sleeping In Light’ being filmed before they S5 was confirmed, I’ve got a better handle on things.

    And thanks for mentioning the retcon! (Especially the parts with everyone meeting each other.) I found myself confused at various parts and figured it was just me.

  2. Neil Ottenstein says

    I remember being quite annoyed by some of the retcons and inconsistencies and also the reuse of material from other episodes.

  3. Bill from Philly says

    I actually tried to watch the live feed, and let me tell you – that was the most boring 15 minutes of my life. Maybe you guys can spice it up some – i don’t know – perhaps rent a clown to dance around behind Jeffrey – perhaps juggle some starfuries or hide Jeffrey’s beer?

    Either way, thanks for the good work guys! I’m still listening, just probably not watching! Great show none-the-less!

  4. Tom St. Remy says

    In the “In The Beginning” book, Londo gets his information about the Minbari side of the war from Delenn, who was captured trying to help her son, David. Londo would let him go on condition she reveal all her secrets about that war. So all the juicy details are fresh in his mind when the kids show up.


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