Babylon Podcast #197: Day of the Dead Smackdown

Welcome to Show #197!

Since we are an equal opportunity platform for B5 Geeking, we are planning an all-girls “Men of Babylon 5” (from here on out to be called the B5 Beefcake episode). Well, Bret may join in, too, because he’s got an equal opportunity pleasure threshold.

Deep Geeking: Tim, Summer and Bret and special guest Gary from Jacksonville weigh in from their respective corners for the “Day of the Dead” smackdown you’ve all been waiting for!

Is it quantum physics, or just the chalk?

We field questions from the voicemail bucket, and argue amongst ourselves so long that we made Mike squirm, yet in the end, we still didn’t manage to do anything beyond continuing to agree to disagree.

But the fact that Tim and Bret think that “Day of the Dead” is worse than “Thirdspace” is borderline criminal.

Adira, Dodger, Zoe and Morden: Ghosts or something more?

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s also still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

More Parody/Filk Songs Wanted: If you know of any more B5-related fan songs out there, definitely let us know, so we can let other B5 fans know where to buy them! And if those CDs are out of print, let’s brainstorm on ways to get those songs back out there for fans!

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  1. And to start the ball rolling on rebuttals, the concept I was trying to use as an example for Tim in addition to the Star Trek one was “tesseract”, from “A Wrinkle in Time”. Also, one could use the concept of folded space from the movie “Event Horizon” (we’ll just ignore all that opening a portal to hell bullshit that ruined a perfectly good movie at the end).

    So yeah, I guess I’m not giving up the argument as easily as I thought I might be able to 😉

  2. Hey Sum, would it be too late to nominate my Mom for the Beefcake show? I think you need someone there who’ll show Byron the love (how much does she love Byron? She knows his last name. They never said his last name on the show). 😉

  3. JimJohnD says

    I liked the blooper in the scene with Morden and Lennier. Just as Morden disappears, the paper falls you can see the shoe of the guy who dropped the paper off camera left. It is at about 37min 02 seconds in. It is in the last few frames right before the cut to a close up of Lennier.

    I may have watched these DVDs too many times:) Naaa…

  4. Generally, the “hyperspace transfer” thing is a massive inexcusable Mcguffin. What might have worked better is if the Brakiri had leased that section of the station getting agreements from all non-Brakiri residents to sign a waver, then actively seal it off pumping in telepathic inducing psychotropic after. Have Sheridan balancing between trying to deal with creating a diplomatic incident, and the threat of the gas leaking into the rest of the station.

  5. No, I’m with Summer. Having it turn out to be a drug would totally cheapen the good parts, especially the closure for Lochley. How would you feel if you felt like a question that had been dogging you for half your life had been answered, then suddenly, oops, sorry, it was just a acid trip? Talk about suckage.

  6. I disagree, Arkle. Sometimes the most potent and meaningful answers come from within ourselves. Lochley was haunted by the question of whether or not Zoe intended to kill herself. But perhaps a part of her already knew the answer, and it took this experience for it to rise out of her subconscious.

  7. All I’m saying is if the episode had ended like that, my reaction probably would’ve been something along the lines of “Oh, boo! What the f*** dude, seriously!”

  8. ChristopherNYC says

    From the babelonpodcast:

    Tim: “There were other sci-fi women, but I never got past five.”
    Jeffery: “You mean first base.”
    Tim: “No, no, I mean five. You see, I love Babylon 5… we have five seasons, you see, and each one is a different level of intimacy and pleasure. So, you know, first you have one, and that’s naa-naa. Then there’s two…and by you get to five it’s a heehaa-heehaa.”

  9. For a second, I thought Farpoint had attracted some product placement. I heard Tim refer to “Adobe Barrier” and I thought that maybe this is coming after Flash. Re-listening, sadly, it turned out to be “dopey barrier.” But for a split second, after hearing so much about Steve Jobs and his anti-Flash sentiment, I really thought I heard it.

  10. Someone mentioned that the dead that visited were “called.” If so, that may explain why Morden visited Lenier: Lenier, even if on some subconscious level, was beginning to realize his love of Delenn was a betrayal, and the biggest traitor to intelligent life that Lenier knew of would have been Morden. The dead never said anything the living didn’t already know, it just gave them closure to hear it. Lenier couldn’t want closure on his love, and so refused to hear Morden’s message.

    And just for the record, Summer’s right; Tim’s wrong. Purple!

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