Babylon Podcast #207: Law and Justice in Babylon 5
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Ah… where to begin!
First, I agree with Kurt. In the scenes where the fighting was still going on, it’s easy to see where Lyta could have believed that Byron was in mortal danger, and gone into a mama bear protective mode, where her instinct to protect a loved one overrode whatever subconscious limits she was still holding herself to, and laid a major smackdown on someone, telepathically or telekinetically. It wasn’t until afterwards, after Byron made his decision to end the fighting and immolate himself, and she could see that he couldn’t be talked out of it, that she went back to being her typically restrained self.
Tim must have used some telepath mojo on Bret, because Bret was right the first time.
Second, yeah, I also think Hated Bunny must have confused some of what we were saying. The statue of Li has both male and female anatomical aspects because she’s the goddess of passion and fertility. We see she has female breasts and male members, and we can assume she also has representation of the matching female genitalia along her spine. Plus deities can do that sort of thing if they wish.
But we have never ever said that the Centauri females have those tentacles.
One aspect of the elements of cultures doing things that are considered odd that I didn’t hear covered might be the whole Drazi green v. purple “civil war”. To Ivanova in particular, it didn’t make much sense. To most humans, outside of English football hooligans, it doesn’t make much sense. However, to the Drazi, it’s as simple as “Green. Purple.” *shrug*
I was surprised that TIm or Bret didn’t bring up Passing through Gethsemane during their justice discussion. That episode reveals more about the EA justice system then just about any other episode in the series. From capital punishment to victims’ rights, it covers a lot of territory.
In the discussion of justice, where does ‘spacing’ fall? Garibaldi went into some depth explaining it to someone whom he was seeking to motivate. Was this just a verbose bluff? The actual illustration of spacing came by a sweet young protogee of Bester in a small ship.
When part of the rules say “we don’t kill anymore — we just wipe the personality,” but Garibaldi has knowledge of brutal capital punishment techniques and Psy Corp actually implements them, this indicates to me that bureaucratic justice vs street justice in B5 are just as we experience them today.
In many cultures concepts of honour are closely linked to justice and I think you missed a couple of points in the way this is dealt with such as the Centauri duel in Knives and the oaths of revenge the Narns take a couple of times