Babylon Podcast: Watching Crusade

As seen in the poll we took, the listeners have spoken, and the order in which we’ll watch and discuss Crusade has been chosen.

We’re going to be using the Revised SciFi Channel broadcast order, which is:

Racing the Night (103)
The Needs of Earth (101)
The Memory of War (102)
The Long Road (107)
Visitors from Down the Street (104)
The Well of Forever (106)
Each Night I Dream of Home (105)
Patterns of the Soul (110)
The Path of Sorrows (109)
Ruling from the Tomb (111)
The Rules of the Game (112)
War Zone (108)
Appearances and Other Deceits (113)

So, there you have it.

Comments

  1. http://Paul%20from%20California says

    Totally fine with it – long live the JMS order!

  2. Since Gary brought up the unproduced Crusade scripts, it would make sense that we discuss those after the 13 produced episodes.

    Those would be:

    To The Ends of the Earth
    Value Judgments
    The End of the Line (season 1 finale)

    What I’m also curious about are the 5 other episodes that are mentioned, but never made it to the script stages. Hell, I’d love to just see an outline or treatment of those episodes… I wonder if that information is amongst the gems that Jason isn’t allowed to tell us about yet.

    One can dream 🙂

  3. http://Jason%20Davis says

    Don’t forget that “The Walls of Hell” is discussed extensively in he Larry DiTillio interview in CRUSADE: BEHIND THE SCENES.

  4. http://Jason%20Davis says

    Don’t forget that “The Walls of Hell” is discussed extensively in the Larry DiTillio interview in CRUSADE: BEHIND THE SCENES.

    I’m incapable of letting a typo slide by.

  5. http://Neil%20Ottenstein says

    The one problem/oddity about this order is that is clearly shows that
    War Zone (108)
    and
    Appearances and Other Deceits (113)
    are the ugly step-sisters that TNT decisions forced on JMS and are just placed there as appendices.

  6. In working on the Crusade books, I recently discovered this order for the episodes. It’s dated 19 January 1999 and assumes the completion of episodes 114, 115 and 116. Thought I’d share for those interested in debating such things:

    War Zone (108)
    The Long Road (107)
    The Well of Forever (106)
    Ruling From the Tomb (111)
    The Path of Sorrows (109)
    The Rules of the Game (112)
    Appearances and Other Deceits (113)
    Racing the Night (103)
    The Needs of Earth (101)
    The Memory of War (102)
    Each Night I Dream of Home (105)
    Visitors From Down the Street (104)
    To the Ends of the Earth (114)
    Patterns of the Soul (110)
    Value Judgments (115)
    117
    118
    119
    120
    121
    122
    End of the Line (116)

    While I like that it addresses the fact that “Patterns” must logically follow “Memory,” I don’t care for “The Rules of the Game” before “Each Night I Dream of Home.” Still, one more order for the argument.

  7. http://Gary%20The%20Great says

    Jason, Do you know who proposed that running order? jms, wb, tnt ?

  8. I’m not sure if JMS proposed the order, but it DEFINITELY originated at Babylonian Productions. In the files, there are several different variations of this same document (most only going up to “Appearances”). I’ve been toying with the idea of doing some kind of chart that shows all the various Crusade orders and how they relate to one another.

    What you must remember is that there were three orderings that existed DURING production of Crusade: a) the order of episodes before the TNT-forced hiatus, b) the intended order of the episodes after the TNT hiatus [my post above] and c) the order in which they actually aired [this order only exists because 114–in which the gray and red uniforms were destroyed and the crew went back to black–was not filmed].

    Still, I think the order above would have been revised further if season one had been finished. I think a few more black-uniform episodes would have been shunted after the gray/red-uniform episodes. “The Rules of the Game” really should be the third Gideon-Lochley episode. They meet in “Ruling…,” brush shoulders in “Each Night…” and take a shower in “Rules….”

    • *start angry Kirk mode*
      TTTTTT-NNNNN-TTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      *end angry Kirk mode*

      Ahem.

      If I may make a suggestion? If Synthetic Worlds gets any print/reprint rights whatsoever, I’d love to see some Crusade novels. I’m putting that out there now.

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