Babylon Podcast #223: The Long Road (Crusade)

Welcome to Show #223!

Tim and Summer continue to lament not only the lack of fresh B5 related content, but the dearth of the hope of any potential new B5 content.

The stages of scifi television grief: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Podcasting, Acceptance.

If you are a die-hard B5 fan, and for some reasons you haven’t purchased any previous B5 Script Books, get your hands on “Artifacts from Beyond the Rim”. It will be available from B5 Books until January 20, 2011

Deep Geeking: In this episode, Tim and Summer discuss “The Long Road”, the games technomages play, whether or not dragons should still invoke a primal fear in space-faring races, and more.

Tim has a different appreciation for this episode when watched in the current order, and Summer likes how much better some of the character relationships have developed in this current viewing order.

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

More Parody/Filk Songs Wanted: If you know of any more B5-related fan songs out there, definitely let us know, so we can let other B5 fans know where to buy them! And if those CDs are out of print, let’s brainstorm on ways to get those songs back out there for fans!

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  1. It was good to see Edward Woodward and there were some scenes I liked, but this isn’t one of my favourites.

    That said, when I watched Crusade on DVD, I started off in the TNT broadcast order and I don’t think that did this episode any favours at all. I do think that airing an episode like this as the second episode was a bad idea on TNT’s part – they needed a few episodes to build up momentum and get us introduced to the whole cast before throwing us into something like this.

    The TNT broadcast order was so bad that I quickly changed to the order you guys are doing, but I skipped The Long Road because I’d seen it too recently, so it could be that I’ll like it more when I get round to seeing it again.

  2. Reposting on the proper page:

    Not to turn this into another Day of the Dead, but …

    I couldn’t get over father and son Woodward, together. Order, family, philosophy of life. This highlight pushed everything else into the background for me.

    Use of the ‘big gun’ was a surprise to me as I thought it was not necessary to use such great force. Perhaps it was less powerful in this episode?

    If you want to dismiss Crusade because of any one item, there are certainly enough from which to choose one to accomplish this. The music is the least offensive IMHO. The Act 1,2,3,4 with the opening tease and closing tease seem so wrong when the story is about wandering around trying to find something that might lead to a cure. This could probably not be changed, though. You might also dismiss the pig-headed villagers who trusted their advisor on every other subject — except this one. Then, in the end, they saw the error of their ways, and they promised to learn from their mistakes and make things right, etc, etc. Can you have a worse pair of military stereotypes than the Earth commander and his underling?

    So, it’s not the great episode for me, but it’s no Day of the Dead, either.


  3. Mike’s points at the close of the episode were just right. Of course, it’s far easier to suggest getting some producer on to discuss this than to get someone to agree to it. Could our old friend, Jeffrey suggest a name or two? If he is still busy doing Hollywood type things, he must know a few people he could send over to Summer.

    Things change so slowly where there’s money involved that I don’t think we will live to see the changes mentioned come to being. The last contract I sent out for music royalties came back with a demand for 50% of the gross sales. How strongly can you say “out of touch”! Needless to say, change is inevitable; I just don’t know if it will come soon enough for us to see it.

    Great episode!

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