Babylon Podcast #224: Feedbackapalooza

Welcome to Show #224!

Tim and Summer are growing concerned, because we don’t have any solid ideas for our 6th season opening yet.

Hopefully, Gary and Edmund have been plotting mischievousness on our behalf.

Universal Studios has put the Lensman feature film project on hold, and Tim goes into mourning.

If you are a die-hard B5 fan, and for some reasons you haven’t purchased any previous B5 Script Books, get your hands on “Artifacts from Beyond the Rim”. It will be available from B5 Books until January 20, 2011

Listener Voicemails: Time to catch up on the voicemails from the end of 2010!! And we are happy to hear the new voices chiming in after all this time!

Tom from Brooklyn comments on breaking the fourth wall; Colin gives us his “5 Best B5 Episodes” list; Dan from Honolulu comments on the impression Michael Ansara left on him in an original Outer Limits episode (watch on Hulu, written by Harlan Ellison); Ben from California lends his insight on the difference between using actual models and CG; Gary veers off into the Star Trek universe to make a joke; Gary reminds us that there are wireframe editions of the original B5 ship models out in the wild on the Internet, but resolution would be a problem

Gary recomments on the CGI, specifically shots used in Crusade (and we are still interested in who put the B5 station on the DVD menus of Space: Above and Beyond); Gary clarifies a little of the Foundation/Netter transition; Gary comments on Delenn’s comments about “thinking like the enemy” from And the Rock Cried Out…; Gary details the differences between the Narn blaster and the gun from Space: 1999; Gary has New Year’s Babylon 5 thoughts, and wonders if B5’s use of calendar years helped or hurt the story and arcs; Rapid Eye sings “Grandma Got Run Over by a White Star” for us all

So how much alcohol will it take to get Bret to sing for us? Do we really want to find out?

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

More Parody/Filk Songs Wanted: If you know of any more B5-related fan songs out there, definitely let us know, so we can let other B5 fans know where to buy them! And if those CDs are out of print, let’s brainstorm on ways to get those songs back out there for fans!

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  1. To elaborate on “Soldier”, the episode was written by Harlan Ellison, which he adapted from his short story “Soldier From Tomorrow”, and it was also one of the two episodes/stories involved in the Terminator lawsuit.

    So Mike was right about it being from a short story, but Tim pegged the author correctly.

  2. For those interested, Harlan’s script for “Soldier” will be appearing in BRAIN MOVIES: THE ORIGINAL TELEPLAYS OF HARLAN ELLISON, which will be coming soon from the folks who published CRUSADE: WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? and BABYLON 5: ARTIFACTS FROM BEYOND THE RIM, the latter of which goes out of print tomorrow!

  3. Surely the S6 Opening Credits would have to be like the Crusade opening credits? After all, that’s the current deep-geeking focus.

    Who Are You?

    What Do You Want?

    Who Do You Serve? And Who Do You Trust?

  4. Neil Ottenstein says

    Once again I have remembered to try to catch the livestream podcast and I see there is not one tonight.
    At least I managed to catch one. Next Wednesday I’ll probably completely forget about it again….

  5. Sadly I forgot to check twitter. Bummer no show. My guilt over missing the last two snow magnified.

  6. I haven’t even finished listening to the whole show yet, but in response to the first caller: not just you. It doesn’t bother me, but I remember somebody complaining about it in when Season 5 first aired.

  7. Bill from Philly says

    As I work my way through my second helping of Battlestar – we all have to thank JMS for showing that a sophisticated sci-fi model can work. In 1990s we had B5, in the early 2000s we had Battlestar, what’s the future to hold this decade?

  8. Here’s what jms said about how the change from Foundation to Netter Digital went down, at the time:

    Also, the seasons always beginning and ending with the calendar years bugged me a bit too. Since we tended to have things working up to a climax and season-ending cliffhanger, I always wondered why people in the Babverse never noticed that heavy stuff always went down around the end of the year.

  9. I think a topic for a show after Crusade episodes are exhausted would be how different Crusade’s and Firefly’s cancellations have been dealt with within the Sci-Fi community. I think Crusade was as promising show as Firefly, but seems to get a bad rap. Firefly is OK, but it’s way overrated a show due to a small, but vocal fan group. These Browncoats are quite myopic about other quality shows that got cancelled early and were screwed around with.

    I am not a fan of Joss Whedon’s other shows, so it is quite annoying going on some forum sites for shows like Castle and Bones and being told all the time how Firefly got screwed or how great Angel was and wanting cast members from the old shows to guest star on the new shows.

    I know from listening to the podcast that Summer is a big Firefly fan, but she is good about tempering her enthusiasim for that show during the Podcast. She is the type of respectful Firefly fan that does not seem to be common online.

  10. Neil Ottenstein says

    I was all set to join in on the live stream last night when at 8:45 PM we lost power due to the snow storm. We still haven’t got it back.

  11. Gary The Great says

    If you have an iphone I can walk you through setting it up.

  12. Neil Ottenstein says

    No, I don’t have an iPhone. Thanks for the offer. After 20 hours, we did get our power back.

  13. please do an interview with michael o’hare. thank you.

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