Babylon Podcast #230: Tangentopalooza

Welcome to Show #230!

We have a report from Danny in Adelaide about Armageddon Expo! He talks about Pat Tallman’s appearance and a Skype call from JMS. The big news is about the Sherlock HolmesArthur Conan Doyle-Harry Houdini story that JMS sold to Dreamworks, and that there are whispers in the dark about a Babylon 5 project broached by WB to The Great Maker.

Feedbackapalooza: Father Beast lists his Babylon 5 Top 5 Episodes (and yes, it is possible to just jump in a watch a random couple of episodes); Neil expounds on the distinction between “best episodes” and “personal favorites” episodes; Neil reminds us that the ratings for Crusade on TNT would have had any effect since the series had been cancelled before the first episode had ever aired; Neil relates how the Crusade cancellation affected him at the time; Colin wonders if there’s a connection between Lorien and the Soul Hunters, because of how they both spoke of souls;

Gary butt-dials us, but has a question about Dr Chambers not getting more action scenes; Gary dials us on purpose to tell us about JMS writing a treatment for Repent, Harlequin; Hated Bunny surmises that the Vorlons could have pulled off the “Day of the Dead” sleight-of-technology that allowed that section of the station be “on Brakir”; Neil weighs in on the CGI vs Models debate, which leads to a discussion on the costs of remastering CG on Star Trek vs potential costs for B5 (which also leads to a tangent into Miami Vice and making home video releases appealing); Father Beast comments on the similarity between Ironheart’s shuttle explosion and Kes’ shuttle explosion from Voyager… because she evolved into a higher being.

Tim reads several emails from Gary about an interview with Rick Berman on Ron Moore, and Babylon 5; from Tony M about getting the B5 novels back in circulation in ebook format; Frank tells us about JMS writing answers back on a note with questions from his late wife; Joe thinks that Tim is “out of his mind wrong” about incorporating B5 characters into Crusade, which leads to a long tangent about “stunt casting” pros and cons, and whether or not Crusade really used stunt casting

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s also still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

More Parody/Filk Songs Wanted: If you know of any more B5-related fan songs out there, definitely let us know, so we can let other B5 fans know where to buy them! And if those CDs are out of print, let’s brainstorm on ways to get those songs back out there for fans!

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  1. Arthur Conan Doyle, not Sherlock Holmes.

    • @Jason

      … I knew that … 😉

      @Rob, sometimes that isn’t possible, mainly because when we skip weeks due to unforeseen events (Mike’s food poisoning, for example), I don’t even remember myself when it was recorded. I believe both Shows 230 and 231 were recorded on March 17, though.

  2. I would like to make a request of whoever posts the podcasts (Summer?)
    Can you post what date the podcast was recorded and not what date it is posted? My OCD would like to know what date the recording is taking place so that there is context to comments made about current events.

    Thanks. Now to go and listen to this podcast.

    Rob in MI

  3. Paul Hahn says

    It wasn’t just spaceship shots that were redone in the new ST-TOS release. Another category was planetscapes–many times when a matte painting didn’t look as good as it might have, they redid it. Vulcan in particular got a nice makeover in “Amok Time”. And those often had live elements of people to be composited in, so that would be a bit more complicated.

  4. Ever seen TOS got remastered, I’ve dreamed of B5 getting a facelift. With TLT, I’d go nuts and buy all the dvds again (or blurays) if all they did was use TLT models and run through the series redoing the space scenes.

    Do we know if B5 was edited the right way or the cheap way on VHS like was done on TNG, DS9, and such? If so, it’d cost a lot less money since you don’t have to redo every shot, every special effect, and well everything. The more they have from way back when the better and cheaper it gets.

    I’ll take what B5 I can get. If I had any skill with CGI, I’d be tempted to try my luck at doing it myself. Technology has come a long way. I.M.P.S. look great as a fan project for Star Wars. Though modelling a five mile long highly detailed space station is quite a fish to bite off of.

    Oh dreams.

  5. Yes, you did get my name right. My point is that is you need to remind people that a spin-off is in the same universe as the original show. Buffy/Angel is an example of that. While Summer is right the crossovers did impact the stories, but a number of those shows written just to throw the Buffy cast into like Angel being human for a day. And I would love to do a Star Trek podcast or even a new Doctor Who podcast with Jason to prove how wrong he is. It would also be a nice deduction to get the new Treks. The first two seasons of TNG were mostly terrible.

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