Babylon Podcast #249: Neilapalooza

Welcome to Show #249!

Feedback spill on aisle 5!

Voicemails: Edmund enjoyed the Tucker Smallwood interview, and has already ordered a copy of his book; Neil from Bowie relates a comment from Harlan Ellison’s “Brain Movies” book; Neil thinks “War Zone” doesn’t work in the revised episode order and should be removed; Neil reminisces about the USENET moderated Babylon 5 group; Neil loved the end of Show 244; Neil is holding his breath until we finally get to cover the “In Valen’s Name” comics; Neil surmises about the previous Shadow War combatants;

Gary also loved the end of Show 244; Gary wonders if we’re overvaluing the importance of the station just prior to it’s destructive decommissioning; Neil enjoyed Marjean’s commentary and would love us to get more actors on the show; Gary also weighs in on the Harlan Ellison scriptbooks; Neil appreciates Jeffrey’s tribute to Jeff Conaway; Gary elaborates on Walter Koenig’s Walk of Fame star; Neil posits what Dr Kyle may have seen while working on Kosh;

Gary also recommends the “In Valen’s Name” comic for the story of what happened to Babylon 4, and Summer really needs to find the trade collection of that miniseries; Neil relates series reboot tidbits from a JMS interview done on another B5 podcast, The Babylon Project; Gary takes Tim to task over haunted tanks and “Day of the Dead”; Mike from Minneapolis wonders about the connection between the story premise of Babylon Prime and Crusade; and he also points out the similarities between the anime Starblazers and Crusade;

Father Beast also points out the comic for the info on B4; Rapid Eye submits his own B5 memories; Arkle chimes in on the episode viewing and broadcast orders; Will in Miami wants to know if we’d like to see the original Crusade episode pages from the Scifi Channel website back then

Yes, Will, please send those to us!

Also, folks preparing to review and discuss the comics and novels with us (or for us), get ready… your turn will be coming up soon!

Lurker’s Guide 2.0: Summer is expanding the documentation to be covered at Lurker’s Guide 2.0, the major change being converting the episode guide into a full Wiki with cross-referenced topics, tidbits and everything you’d want in a Wiki. She’s also still searching for pictures of rare collectibles, photos of magazine covers and toys, and all sorts of other B5 goodies that didn’t get included in the original guide during the years after Crusade. Let her know if you want to lend a hand.

More Parody/Filk Songs Wanted: If you know of any more B5-related fan songs out there, definitely let us know, so we can let other B5 fans know where to buy them! And if those CDs are out of print, let’s brainstorm on ways to get those songs back out there for fans!

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  1. Oooh something for me to listen to this evening now that I’ve finished Pat’s B5 book. Huzzah.

  2. Nice reference to “Repo Man” in today’s podcast.
    I would add there should have been a cardboard pine tree air freshener hanging in the operating room when Dr. Kyle cracked open Kosh’s encounter suit.

  3. Two things:

    (1) Dr. Kyle could not have seen an angel (or whatever his belief system’s equivalent was), because Kosh was unconscious at the time. The angel appearance is a psychic illusion that Vorlons have to consciously project–it was established after Kosh was seen in “The Fall of Night’ that projecting to all the people who could see him when he saved Sheridan, simultaneously, took a lot out of him. Dr. Kyle has to have seen Kosh’s true form, which we don’t get to see ourselves until [?? forgot the name] the episode where the remnant of Kosh in Sheridan has to help drive the second Kosh out.

    (2) I thought Tim had avoided one of my pet peeves when he said “previous Shadow War”, but then he blew it a sentence or two later when he called it “the First Shadow War”. Wrong! The Shadow War 1000 years ago was so far from being the first one it’s not even funny; it was the second-to-last in a series of wars that have been going on for millions, perhaps over a billion years.

  4. I still contend that blowing the station into millions of little pieces-parts is far more of a navigation hazard than keeping it intact. A scrapper might be happy to gather up the largest chunks, but as pieces get smaller they will become increasingly costly to track down and gather – especially after the field has had some time to spread out. The concept of implosion, such as is done by demolition crews here on Earth, that Summer responded to a previous post of mine on the matter is flawed in that; here on Earth there are a couple things to contain the collapse: Gravity to make it fall in one direction (down), and ground to stop its momentum. Neither exist in orbit, so the material would continue out the other side after some interaction at the center. Also, the CGI clearly shows an outward explosion. Then there’s the matter of the chunks that head directly toward the planet. The smallest would of course burn up on entry, but larger pieces would survive to impact the surface, which Drall might not find very amusing.

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